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30 June 2007
A writes July 10, 2007 FYI I heard from Radar's managing editor Leigh Ann Boutwell. She wanted
to run this photo of you at 1/4 a page in their September issue: http://www.mccullagh.org/image/12/john-young-cryptome.html I denied her request. (I don't think it's that great a photo and would
not be flattering when used in a magazine -- my fault as the
photographer, of course, not yours as the subject). I said they could use this photograph, which shows off your handsome mug
much better (and is more mysterious as well): http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-23/john-young.html I haven't heard back. ----- 4000 images Shallow Hal Radar won't use. Nor these carefully left out: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131815&page=1 Most of which are here: http://eyeball-series.org Other staged trash pix:
John Young stands in the doorway of his home he recently opened to an unannounced visit by FBI agents, Monday Aug. 16, 2004, in New York. Young, an architect, operates a website that "publishes documents forbidden by governments worldwide." Young caught law enforcement's attention after he tried to expose gaps in national security through his website. (AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews)
John Young display a website he operates from his home in New York, Monday Aug. 16, 2004. Young, a 68-year-old activist says the government has been monitoring a Web site he runs ever since the agents visited late last year. (AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews)
FYI this fellow emailed me last week and then called me today. He seems like a legitimate reporter (as in, he asked questions that reporters would ask). He seemed interested in details of your personal life, such as kids, friends, hobbies, sports, and said you're not talking to him anymore. John C. also told me you suspected he was affiliated with British intelligence and weren't talking to him anymore.
Anyway, I answered questions like how long I've known you (I think about 10 years) and what I thought of cryptome (I'm a fan) and how we met (on the cypherpunks list) but not ones that seemed more personal such as whether we had any mutual friends in common. Thought you'd want to know.
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Subject: john young / cryptome
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:20:03 -0400
From: John Cook <JCook[at]radaronline.com>
My name is John Cook, and I'm a reporter for Radar Magazine--we've exchanged e-mails before; I'm a long-time reader of the your list. I'm working on a story for the September issue of Radar about John Young and Cryptome, and I was wondering if you know him at all and might be willing to talk to me a little bit, or if you don't know him personally, perhaps you can talk about Cryptome and what it does and the role that it's played in online security issues, etc.
Is there a good time to reach you?
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A 2 writes:
I just heard from a reporter from Radar who is doing a story on you and Cryptome. Is there anything specific you'd like me to mention or focus on?
Cryptome: John Cook told me Radar trashes people to sell advertising. Radar's out to smear Cryptome and whoever else can be tricked into buying his spiel. We always benefit more from being attacked and smeared than being praised and flattered. Puff pieces are repulsive and breed disgust. So please attack, viciously, it'll be used to sell ads. I told the Radar reporter a smear is the best thing he could do. And also to fuck Radar, with a big smile and snot in his drink. I emailed his editor that same message, called his reporter an ignorant fool. Invited Radar to upgrade its low ambitions.
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:16:29 -0400
Subject: Re: CRYPTOME--Reporter's Inquiry From John Cook / Radar Magazine
From: John Cook <JCook[at]radaronline.com>
Hi John. How the hell are you? Hope you re well. Since you re usually conscientious about publishing responses to the things you post on Cryptome, I thought it would be worth my while to point out to you that I never told you that Radar trashes people to sell advertising, nor did I say anything that could be reasonably construed as implying same. In fact, Radar does not trash people to sell advertising. It does, of course, occasionally publish true things about people and institutions that those people and institutions would rather not see published. And it does sell advertising. So I could live with Radar publishes true things that some of its targets defensively regard as trash in order to sell advertising. How s that?
However: If it s true that you put snot in my drink, a thorough trashing may be in order. Can you recommend an advertiser who d be interested in sponsoring something like that?
By the way, [x] asked me to tell you that he says hello.
Also: Why are you so angry?
Cryptome: Cook is sucking up to a slew of folks in the US and elsewhere gathering material for a Cryptome smear (some forward his email appeals, some call to ask who is this guy). Excellent, feed him sewage, I urge. He's got two hours of my garbage on tape. I referred him to Anthony Haden Guest (London-New York writer) who got 3 hours on tape of my crap in 2006 for a Radar story that never appeared. Well, never appeared in public; who got it can be mused. Sucking up, Guest bragged of his periodic voluntary work for MI6, and that he was suspected of being a spy around New York City (standard bar pick-up talk). I told Cook the Guest spy fantasy-reality was a story worth pursuing. Cook countered that Guest is a buddy of Radar's editor.
I told Cook he got on tape what Guest got, F1-key pre-fabricated fantasy stuff that's on Google and in the bountiful official cesspools.
Cook said he didn't have the time or interest to read Cryptome. Agreed, I said, it's off Radar's screen, so what's your purpose? He said, who are your sources, literally pusing the recorder closer to me. So I fed the tape F1.
This topic is trash.
[Exchange related to a 2006 Radar article promised by writer Anthony Haden Guest to get a 2-hour ingterview with John Young, never published.]
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:23:27 -0500
From: "Aaron Gell" <aaron.gell[at]gmail.com>
To: "John Young" <jya[at]pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Review Material for Radar
Thanks John and Deborah. This is great. I'll be in touch, or someone from our art department will, if we need any further information.
On 12/6/06, John Young <jya[at]pipeline.com> wrote:
- Hi Aaron,
- Here's a proposed list of URLs for you to consider. Two topics have
- most generated Cryptome notoriety -- naming of spies and publishing
- satellite photos of sensitive sites (perfectly legal in the US say FBI agents
- during visits to Cryptome).
- 1. Names of 276 MI6 intelligence officers -- led to FBI visit to Cryptome,
- British government to attempt to have Cryptome's ISP remove the
- files, Cryptome to be named "most hated website" by UK spies:
- 2. Names of Japanese intelligence officers -- led to FBI telephone request
- to remove on behalf of the Japanese Ministry of Justice:
- 3. Names of 2,619 CIA sources:
- http://cryptome.org/cia-2619-rc.htm (reader responses)
- 4. Publication of satellite photos of sensitive sites -- led to FBI visit
- to Cryptome
- (this was before Google Earth and Local Live were started), flattering
- smear by Readers Digest:
- http://cryptome.org/web-threats.htm ("these websites are an invitation to
- Deborah Natsios, on Cartome, in partnership with Cryptome, has
- published her provocative reports:
- 1. Government targeting of dissent
- Homeland Defense and the Prosecution of Jim Bell
- 2. Citizen counter-surveillance
- Reversing the Panopticon
- 3. Burgeoning land grab by national security industry
- National Security Sprawl
- 4. Conflict between armaments and nature in Israel
- Jerusalem Sky
- 5. Korean peninsula discord
- Parallel Atlas, 38 Degrees
Deborah can provide higher-resolution imagery of images
- in her reports.
- Finally, importantly, for promotional boost for our architectural
- work which underwrites the cost of "web provocateurism," and
- related bibliography:
- John Young (jya[at]pipeline.com)
- Deborah Natsios (dn[at]pipeline.com)
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